Halla-aho takes another swipe at Finland’s Somali community

by , under Enrique

It’s pretty easy to note that one of the Perussuomalaiset (PS) party’s dynamic duo, Jussi Halla-aho and James Hirvisaari, are raising the stakes as the municipal elections near on October 28. We recently heard Hirvisaari throwing low punches at homosexuals and today Halla-aho would be ready to stop giving protection to Somalis, who come from a war-torn country.  

Halla-aho, who was fined in June by the Supreme Court for defaming religion and inciting ethnic hatred,  asked in a parliamentary question whether Somalis should receive protection from Finland since a hundred of them have visited Somalia.

The PS MP bases his question on a YLE news program.

Halla-aho’s views have been seriously challenged by some like Sofie From-Emmersberger, Finnish ambassador to Kenya and Somalia, who said the situation in the African country to be fragile.

Finland’s Somali Association vice president, Rage Abdulrahman, considered on Iltalehti that Halla-aho’s views “are sick and really off course.”

Even if Somalia were a totally safe country to live in today, how many would return? What about their children who grew up in Finland? Don’t they have the same rights, like their parents, to claim this country as their permanent home?

This Ilta-Sanomat billboard from August 8, 1996 reads: “Somalis to remain in Finland.” 

As the municipal elections near, the more vicious the message will be from parties like the PS and politicians like Halla-aho, Hirvisaari and others.

Should we be surprised?

Not really since there is nothing new under that PS political sun.

 

  1. D4R

    First of There’re stable places in Somalia but the question is what klan resides there? becuz i don’t know have you been following the war in somalia in these past 20 decades, Somalia has a klan war, there’re different klan and they don’t get along with eachother, that’s why war reupted. I came to Finland when i was 8 years old, i grew up in here, went to school, i wouldnt consider myself 100 Somali, i don’t speak local Somali, i look different than the Somalis in Somalia, my belief has changed since during my life time in Finland, basically i have changed as a whole in Finland, so i wouldnt be consodered as a Somali in Somalia, if i go back i don’t know what would happen to me or how i could adapt, also Somalia is a totally strange country to me, i don’t have no relatives left there for me since everyone is dead, so go fly a kite Halla Aho, if he denies protection that mean another civiliced country will allow us protection in the future.

    • Enrique Tessieri

      D4R, you made an excellent point: “If i go back i don’t know what would happen to me or how i could adapt, also Somalia is a totally strange country to me, i don’t have no relatives left there for me since everyone is dead, so go fly a kite Halla Aho, if he denies protection that mean another civiliced country will allow us protection in the future.”

      This is the point. You decide what your home is. Nobody can ever take your memories away from you no matter how much they loathe and deny your space in this country.

    • tp1

      D4R, you missed the point. I don’t think you are planning to make a holiday trip to Somalia, are you? We are talking here about Somali people who WILLINGFULLY goes back there for vacation.

      You don’t fall in that group, therefor nobody is suggesting you should go back there.

      But could you even admit that it’s pretty arrogant to claim an asylum here on grounds that Somalia is too dangerous and then go back there for vacation?

    • Mark

      JD has already adequately addressed this point, in regards to Somalia being an unstable country in terms of security. However, the way that Allah-aho and yourself refer to this idea of ‘vacation’ is itself misleading. It is more than likely that Somalis are returning in difficult circumstances in order to see relatives. That is a totally different scenario.

      In fact, the way this is being portrayed is once again disrespectful to Somalians and reflects an obvious prejudice. People who are not prejudiced do not immediately seek ways to denigrate people in this way.

      Another point, the Somali diaspora in Finland work to improve the situation in Somalia. They liase with interest groups, NGOs and governments in Europe (and the Somali government) to provide a conduit for development work and planning for Somalia’s future. I imagine that as part of that extremely important and sometimes difficult and dangerous work, members of the Somali community return to Somalia on a regular basis.

    • JusticeDemon

      tp1

      You don’t fall in that group, therefor nobody is suggesting you should go back there.

      The bogey man is never a flesh and blood individual, but a construct designed to scare the ignorant into a herd response.

    • tp1

      OK, I read Halla-ahos suggestion more carefully and indeed he is talking about ALL somalis.

      So just to make it clear, I disagree with him on that.

  2. Enrique Tessieri

    Halla-aho has serious issues with his values. He lives in a wrong historical period. I am certain he would have been happier if he lived in Germany in the 1930s spreading fairy tales about Jews and other minorities with hate speech. Hasn’t he been fined for defaming a religion and inciting ethnic hatred?

    Even if he has a PhD, he makes a very big mistake when he speaks of other cultures: He clumps them together just like many did in the nineteenth century, when racism was used to subjugate those who were victims of colonialism. Halla-aho has a populist far-right sweet tooth. That’s why he can make a parliamentary question like he did. What is paradoxical about Halla-aho is that he’s ideology if any will fuel ghettoization in Finland. That is why he and his cronies, including the PS, are a menace to Finland.

  3. Marco

    it is evident that your right to asylum seizes the day you travel back to your country.

    Perhaps even easy for Migrant Tales to understand.

    • Mark

      Not at all. As well as being factually incorrect, it is morally corrupt to suggest the same. If Other Finnish residents are free to visit Somali, so are those who are of Somali origin. You cannot deny their right to travel, or would you, by making their residency conditional on it?

  4. tp1

    Mark, answer this honestly:

    In your opinion, is a person entitled to an asylum based on the grounds that he needs to escape his own home country because it’s too dangerous, if that person anyway willingly goes back to that country?

    • Mark

      JD already answered answered this point. Of course the answer is yes. Are you saying that Russian defectors, or similar, can never return to Russia without losing everything in Finland?

  5. D4R

    tp1:D4R, you missed the point. I don’t think you are planning to make a holiday trip to Somalia, are you? We are talking here about Somali people who WILLINGFULLY goes back there for vacation.

    You don’t fall in that group, therefor nobody is suggesting you should go back there.

    But could you even admit that it’s pretty arrogant to claim an asylum here on grounds that Somalia is too dangerous and then go back there for vacation?

    I don’t know any Somali who went there for vocation, maybe north Somalia maybe alittle bit stable for those klans who reside there, if it did happen that some Somalis went there for vocation then they might as well move there, it’s their business, but im not going from Finland that’s for sure, i have ties here, my seeds are half Finns, my family are Finnish citicens, i am deeply rooted so, you Finns just stop all the time repeating go back to your country, we’re here to stay so let’s find a ground solution to how we can cohabit rightfully without discriminating one another.

  6. D4R

    tp1: OK, I read Halla-ahos suggestion more carefully and indeed he is talking about ALL somalis.

    So just to make it clear, I disagree with him on that.

    tp1

    Thank you tp1

  7. Marco

    Not at all. As well as being factually incorrect, it is morally corrupt to suggest the same. If Other Finnish residents are free to visit Somali, so are those who are of Somali origin. You cannot deny their right to travel, or would you, by making their residency conditional on it?

    so Mark.

    The entire Somali population can move and get asylum in Finland without ever having to return to Somalia?

    • JusticeDemon

      Marco

      Sober up and then read what you just wrote.

      Some things give you away, Hannu.

      lol

    • D4R

      Don’t worry it’s unlikely that whole Somalia is wanting to move to Finland, matterfact i know many many Somalis who live in Finland who want to move to another less discriminating country where natives arent so hostile and hateful.

  8. D4R

    i took a visite to IL where they dicuss about Somalis in a very bad manner, and i came to conclusion that it would be better for us Somalisto move from this country period. We’ve been living in Finland over 2 decades and the natives are just getting hostile and hostile at us, even more than ever. To all the anti-Somalis who visit this blog i got a one suggestion that may work for your wish of that us Somalis should leave Finland, that is: give Somalis to citizen passport and i gurantee you they will leave, there you go problem solved. if the conversation between native Finns about us keep on going this negative way then i say it’s no point for us to even consider building lives in this country, we should leave period. To all the hommaforum klans, if you really want your wish to come true, go to your goverment and ask them to give citizen ship to Somalis and that will help them to move to anopther country and you will get your wishes. It’s no use for you to just release your frustration in IL chatting rooms.

    • Enrique Tessieri

      D4R, I disagree with you and understand your pain and frustration. If you think of it, that is exactly what those that loathe you would want: leave. Finland is as much your country as it is theirs.

      What do you think if Martin Luther King Jr. would have done? What about Malcolm X? They didn’t go back to Africa but stayed and fought for their rights. What blacks gained thanks to the Civil Rights Movement is truly remarkable. There is still a lot of work to be done, which means that fighting and defending your rights is a daily hour-by-our process.

      Don’t give space to your enemies. You’re a strong person D4R. Why don’t you lead others with your example?

    • Enrique Tessieri

      D4R, those racists who insult you anonymously are a bunch of cowards. They aren’t worth much. If you ever had the opportunity to face them in a debate, they would shrink with cowardice.

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