University of Eastern Finland concerned over threats to their racism researchers

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Unions representing racism and multiculturalism researchers at the University of Eastern Finland, expressed concern Wednesday over the threats they are receiving, reports YLE in English

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In a joint statement, the unions said that such threats to its researchers should be a cause for concern, especially in a region where intolerance is on the rise.

“Our researchers into racism and multiculturalism have been subjected to threats,” said Antero Puhakka of the Negotiation Organization for Public Sector Professionals (JUKO). “Anonymous threatening letters have been posted to their homes and researchers have faced abuse on Facebook. Complaints regarding the activities of researchers and teachers have been filed with the vice-chancellor or to a higher authority.”

The JUPO representatives added that their must be zero tolerance for such harassment and intimidation.

We should never give in to racists, who have no regard for our democratic way of life and who believe they can intimidate people they disagree with.  If we permit intimidation and fear to overtake our good judgement, the threat to ourselves and our society will become much worse.

Migrant Tales has been a target of death threats in the past and of harassment.

  1. eyeopener

    Losers always will use the force of violence to try to become winners.

    These efforts can only succeed when the national law enforcement institutions keep on playing “dummy”.

    Black or brown shirts under the blue uniform can’t be seen because supportive minds are hidden in their brains. But they are supposed to protect the civilian. Hahahaha.

    As much as the sootheing attitude of the media or even stronger the heralding support of some of Finland’s tabloids. As much as the roaring silence and silent support of political parties.

    Let me coin this as “supportive and collaborative corruption”.

    In this atmosphere losers will become winners becuase nothing is put in their way of creating a world of violence, oppression and silencing.

    Finland on its way to a “Brave New World”?? Looks that way!!

    • Enrique Tessieri

      Hi eyeopener, well put: “Black or brown shirts under the blue uniform can’t be seen because supportive minds are hidden in their brains.”

      The reason why death threats and hate crime has risen in Finland recently is easy to surmise. It grows because it has a lot of support and a too lame response by the politicians and authorities.

      Look at what happened at Jyäskylä. The vice president of Finland’s third-largest party, Juho Eerola, said it was a stunt to sell more books.

  2. eyeopener

    Dear Enrique.

    The ignorance of the public allows individuals like Eerola to make statements like that. The critical “being-in-the-world” is too much to ask, I guess.

    Nevertheless the public should realize that this attitude can backfire on them too. Making the impossible become possible is just because of “I-don’t-believe”. Ostrich policy!!

    Finland is a large country. Many people see the things happening in this perspective. Far-from-my-bed-show. Until something happens quite close or even involve themselves. Wake-up time is then a shock experience. What a pity!!

    Alarm clock is on all the time. No surprises but the events will happen nonetheless. Until Finland really starts to wake up and say: NO!!

    Hope for the day.

  3. ALWILBGOOD

    Through hard work Finland has achieved number one spot in so many areas in life and it looks as if its on course to claim the number one spot as the most rascist state on the planet with the momentum we are experiencing.

    • Joonas

      If you say that Finland is the most racist country on the planet, you don’t know much about the earth.

  4. ALWILBGOOD

    Poor Joonas get me right—Finland hasnt claim the 1st spot yet and not even close but working towards that. The good news is that all what we are experiencing now can be reverse through hard work.

  5. eyeopener

    Hi AWBG.

    Finland as a nation is not pursuing a 1st spot position in RACISM. You are correct there. However, the trend in Finland -looking at the voting trend- points at a dangerous shift towards this 1st position. Critical here are several developments. First, the neglect and positioning of the Finnish political parties. Second, the neglect and positioning of the Finnish police. Not only in what the Police publices, but far more what tyhe police does. Third, the roaring silence of the Finnish political parties. It seems that there is a lot of “unsolved matters and internal turmoil” within these parties.

    To Joonas: are you suggesting that what is happening in Finland in relation to immigration is acceptable?? From a human point of view?? Related to your opinion, does Finland has to recall many Finns who migrated to US or Canada or elsewhere in the world because of family reunion? …..

  6. Farang

    eyeopener

    To Joonas: are you suggesting that what is happening in Finland in relation to immigration is acceptable?? From a human point of view?? Related to your opinion, does Finland has to recall many Finns who migrated to US or Canada or elsewhere in the world because of family reunion? …..

    You are totally mixing two different things here. All those Finns who migrated to US and brought their families there, they were paying the expenses themselves.

    But the immigrant situation here in Finland that we are talking about is that immigrant would like to get their families here on Finnish tax payers expense.

    Can’t you see the difference at all? There are no problems in Finland for immigrants who are able to support their families on their own expense to reunify their families.

    And as a comment to this whole “1st position in racism”, you are totally lost. Finland is on the very bottom of the list if we put countries in order based on which one are the most racist.

    • Enrique Tessieri

      –You are totally mixing two different things here. All those Finns who migrated to US and brought their families there, they were paying the expenses themselves.

      I understand your point but it’s not that easy. Remember, most of the people who come from other countries and live in Finland work.

      But let me ask you this question: Is it humane for a country to deny a person the right to live with his family? Is it right for a country to deny a minor the right to be reunited with his parents in his new country?

  7. Farang

    Enrique

    But let me ask you this question: Is it humane for a country to deny a person the right to live with his family? Is it right for a country to deny a minor the right to be reunited with his parents in his new country?

    Finland is not denying it. It gives them the possibility if they can take care of the expenses. To be human doesn’t require Finns to pay for the living of every people from around the world.

    You should ask the question: Why did those parents send the minor away from them? Think about the answer and hopefully you understand.

    • Enrique Tessieri

      –You should ask the question: Why did those parents send the minor away from them? Think about the answer and hopefully you understand.

      In some countries, a fifteen-year-old is considered an adult. In our country such a person is still a minor.

      I don’t see anything wrong with people moving, or fleeing, their countries in search for a better life. There’s no crime in that although some want to make it seem like that.

    • Mark

      Farang

      Finland is not denying it. It gives them the possibility if they can take care of the expenses. To be human doesn’t require Finns to pay for the living of every people from around the world.

      So what you are saying is that if they have money, they have human rights, and if they don’t, they do not?

      If we decide that the unity of the [close] family is a fundamental unit of society and that to split close family members is wrong, then it should not be a matter of finance as to whether those rights are realised. In the big scheme of things, we are talking hundreds of euros, not thousands, and with Finland’s looming crisis of an ageing population, we really do need more folks coming to these shores to help offset the very dangerous dependency ratios that are likely to develop in the next few years (already projected to be 90 per 100 by 2015).

      But as usual, you piss all over human rights and basically make it a ‘financial matter’, as if that somehow makes it all okay. It does not! The close family is recognised as a fundamental unit of society, to which all citizens are guaranteed the right to be ‘united’ if separated by issues affecting refugees. We are not talking about ‘economic migrants’. We are talking about setting the right example for those people who arrive in Finland as legitimate refugees.

  8. Farang

    Enrique

    I don’t see anything wrong with people moving, or fleeing, their countries in search for a better life. There’s no crime in that although some want to make it seem like that.

    You are correct on that, meaning people should be free to move etc. But you can’t expect that someone else should be responsible for covering the expenses of their living in the country they are moving into.

    For example, if I decide to move to another country, I would pay all the expenses myself. I wouldn’t expect my new home country to provide free living for me and my family.

    Why do you always intentionally leave these two different aspects of immigration embedded as one? If it because you want to drive the the discussion to certain direction. Like in Finland there is no opposition against people moving there working and providing themselves and their family. But there is opposiotion against people moving here to live on our expense. Two totally different things.

    But how you bunch them together you make it appear like the people who oppose the welfare-immigration would oppose ALL immigration. And that is not the truth.

    So next time, instead of saying that some Finns are against immigrant, you should be more clear and say “some Finns are against welfare-immigrants”.

    • Enrique Tessieri

      –You are correct on that, meaning people should be free to move etc. But you can’t expect that someone else should be responsible for covering the expenses of their living in the country they are moving into.

      As far as I know, that’s the way refugees are and should be taken care of in the beginning. It happens in Finland as in the United States.

    • Farang

      Enrique

      As far as I know, that’s the way refugees are and should be taken care of in the beginning. It happens in Finland as in the United States.

      Exactly, you and me are getting closer to mutual understanding. That is the case for refugees. But if a refugee wants his family here, they should be refugees too and get here via that process. Not simply by family reunification. If rest of the family doesn’t qualify as refugees, then they can’t come here unless the family member located here can take care of their living.

  9. eyeopener

    Dear Farang.

    Since when is your name Joonas?? I am not interested in your ideas. You are an imposter, intruder and falsifier. Is that enough to tell you to stay away from a discussion I have with somebody else??

    And if you are Joonas (please identify as such) my advice is to go back to school and upgrade your reading skills first. Re-reading the text of AWBG and my support to his idea. “…on the course of claiming…”. leads you to ano ther conclusion that what you read and interpret this as “1st position in racism”, you are totally lost. Finland is on the very bottom of the list if we put countries in order based on which one are the most racist”.

    That brings me to a second reason why you should go back to elementary school. Your conceptual skills need to be improved. Processes – on the course of claiming- is not the same as “1st position in racism”. You deliberatly left out AWBG’s “Finland hasnt claim the 1st spot yet and not even close but working towards that”. Your way of distorting the discussion leaves me to conclude that you use the same tactics as you can read in Hommaforum every second.

    It is not yours to judge the påosition of migrants in Finland. What Finns did when they left Finland for a better life is just pure suggestion, manipulation of historical data. Who are you to know what Finns did 100-150 years ago?? Do you hold a PhD on economical and financial behavior of Finns abroad in -let’s say- 1850-1930?? I have totally different stories from Finns in that period.

    To summarize: first you intrude ina discussion that is not yours. You owe me an apology!! Second: you distort what participants are saying. You owe AWBG and me an apology. Third: you suggest that you have conclusive knowledge about Finn behavior in migration. Wrong!! you seem to me an imposter. Four: your representation of foreign migrants is at least flawed, incorrect and injust.

    Your problem is a “nitwit” problem. Deeply psychological. You have to see a “shrink” dear Farang.

  10. Farang

    eyeopener

    Dear Farang.
    Since when is your name Joonas?? I am not interested in your ideas. You are an imposter, intruder and falsifier. Is that enough to tell you to stay away from a discussion I have with somebody else??

    This is a public forum, you can’t have personal discussions here, everyone is allowed to participate.

    • eyeopener

      Dear Farang.

      That shows the more your low mentality. But it seems that I have to go along with that mentality.

  11. Farang

    Mark

    So what you are saying is that if they have money, they have human rights, and if they don’t, they do not?

    Are you seriously claiming that it is a human right of every person in the planet earth to come live in Finland on Finnish tax payers’ expense?

    If you are not, then your question makes no sense.
    If you are, then you make no sense.

    I really can’t figure you out, Mark..

    • Mark

      Not trying very hard, are you. But that’s selective, of course. What made you ignore the bit I wrote about the rights of legitimate refugees? You thought that meant every person on the planet? Now why did you do that?

    • eyeopener

      Dear Farang.

      Like it has been said before. Most migrants work and pay taxes here. So they are contributing to the system. There is about 8% -in my part of Finland about 17%- unemployment. That doesn’t come on the account of foreign migrants.

      As said earlier, you distort reality of life in Finland. You falsify the statistics. And you manipulate the facts of how is paying for whom!!

      Actually you are a shame for Finland and its hardworking population, Finns and foreigners. Don’t you have a proper job?? Paying taxes for the people who have to get support for the system Finns have installed a long time ago. Even before you were born.

      Go get a hike in the Barents Region and don’t come back to the real world. Shout a little to the empty skies.

      Maybe you start wondering about yourself. Nothing that you bring to the table makes sense. Do you have sense, Farang. Once again, it is necessary for you to go back to primary school and learn from the beginning.

      Maybe you get sober!!

  12. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights is Bullshit

    Mark

    But as usual, you piss all over human rights and basically make it a ‘financial matter’, as if that somehow makes it all okay. It does not!

    No, actually vice versa. It’s you who make it every people human right to abuse Finland financially.

    • Mark

      Straw man. Good job you don’t have hay fever, you’d be in big trouble!

  13. Farang

    eyeopener

    Like it has been said before. Most migrants work and pay taxes here. So they are contributing to the system.

    So? I have already acknowledged that and said to you that I have no problem with immigrants who work and pay taxes here. So what are you trying to say with this?

  14. Farang

    eyeopener

    Actually you are a shame for Finland and its hardworking population, Finns and foreigners. Don’t you have a proper job?? Paying taxes for the people who have to get support for the system Finns have installed a long time ago. Even before you were born.

    Yes, Finns have established that, but you know what? We have established that for our citizens. Now you and your fellows are demanding that also people from other countries should be allowed to come and consume that social welfare. And that is what I am against.

    And for your record, I pay taxes more than you earn from you job (if you have).

    • eyeopener

      Hi Farang.

      Brawling your income and your taxes payment?? Well, how much tax did you pay last year??

    • Mark

      Not bad for a coder. Or are you the task master these days, Farang? Or have you outsourced the coding to India and you do the project management stuff?

    • Farang

      And for your record, I’m not brawling. I am simply answering to your accusations that I am not paying taxes.

    • eyeopener

      Hi Farang.

      You personally paid that amount of tax!! Can you show me evidence that you personally really did?? Maybe your “company” did. But let’s assume then that you put your income(probably paid by the company) and regularly billing to the tax-office. But what about your profits (creative book-keeping/channeled away)/savings abroad, investments as tax reductions) Somewhere else?? Maybe tax evasion??

      Brawling and answering is not the same as proof or fact, you know.

      By all means I earned more than that!! Just a little smile.

      And Farang. Whatever you do you still haven’t learn to read. Did I say you don’t pay taxes??(See Mark) Distorting the discussion again.

      And Farang. I like this quote of you.

      “And I can challenge you have no job and pay no taxes- you probably living on benefits thats the more reason you hate other people having a piece of you cake”.

      Where was this said and by whom?? You agin twist words, rearrange arguments. In this discussion you will NOT find you quotation. You are a liar, pretender, brawler and a “nitwit”

      When do you grow up, little child.

    • Farang

      You personally paid that amount of tax!! Can you show me evidence that you personally really did??

      Well, you know the taxation of year 2012 will be finalised later this year. So far I have only paid the tax withhold, which could be +-2000 euros of the actual taxes.

      And it was all salary, it’s not my own company where I work. I paid taxes 44 % of my salary.

      And Farang. I like this quote of you.
      “And I can challenge you have no job and pay no taxes- you probably living on benefits thats the more reason you hate other people having a piece of you cake”.
      Where was this said and by whom??

      Sorry, it was ALWILBGOOD who said that quote. My mistake.

  15. ALWILBGOOD

    Farang your posts are like troll droppings…but hey that is what trolls do..they leave there little droppings of drivel where ever they go..
    And I can challenge you have no job and pay no taxes- you probably living on benefits thats the more reason you hate other people having a piece of you cake.

  16. Farang

    And I can challenge you have no job and pay no taxes- you probably living on benefits thats the more reason you hate other people having a piece of you cake.

    Only social benefit I have ever taken was student allowance during my university studies.

  17. eyeopener

    Sorry, it was ALWILBGOOD who said that quote. My mistake

    Why do other people always have to correct your mal-quotations. Can’t you be more accurate when telling your stories.

    Grow up in your argumentation instead of this “tits for tats” kind.

    Sober up when you write your lines, please.

  18. Farang

    Why do other people always have to correct your mal-quotations. Can’t you be more accurate when telling your stories.
    Grow up in your argumentation instead of this “tits for tats” kind.
    Sober up when you write your lines, please.

    To be honest, I don’t really check who writes the comments, I just answer 🙂

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