Hommaforum stoops to new depths by "defaming" adolescent

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By Enrique Tessieri

Hommaforum is a forum closely linked to Perussuomalaiset (PS) party MP Jussi Halla-aho’s blog, Scripta, and to Suomen Sisu, a far-right extremist association. Even if Hommaforum and Scripta are only smears of hatred that stain Finland’s good name and values,  they don’t care whom they tar and feather. But to attack and defame publicly a brave fifteen-year-old girl, Rebecca Holm, who spoke out against racism shows how low they will go to make their point. 

If Holm wants to know some of the places where racial harassment against her and her friends come from, the answer is pretty clear.

According to Kansan Uutiset and Swedish-language daily HBL,  a complaint has been filed to the police for defaming Holm on Hommaforum after she was awarded on March 21 the Red Cross Award on the UN Day Against Racism.

In their usual smartalecky and cantankerous style, Hommaforum members claimed that Holm was “brainwashed” and that her harassment claims were nothing more than fabrications. Some wrote that Holm was being used by her family and friends.

“I have a feeling that if Rebecka didn’t get her daily dose of racism she would become frustrated and slip into depression,” said another Hommaforum member anonymously.

All those who commented about Holm on Hommaforum did so anonymously.

To not have the decency to speak out against an adolescent with one’s name says a lot about this forums. In my opinion, Hommaforum and Scripta are good examples of the sickness that has inflicted our society as of late.

They are like social media peep shows where little anonymous men meet. Instead of watching a naked woman or man, they get off by reading, writing and commenting about a social ogre called racism.

  1. D4R

    All i can say is they’re sick, there’s no humanity left in them, they stood down to animality. Im talking about the sicos who gather is hommaforums, the immoral individuals, the ones who would kill y6ou if there were no authorities becuase they dont value human lifes. Aslong as others let these parasites grow it ill eventually turn in to a devastating cancer desease, im affraid then it will be too late to have a cure for it.

  2. Sasu

    Emmeko me jo tieneet että näin tulee käymään. Minä löysin itsenikin hommafoorumista. Olen kuulema joku ihme kiinalainen hörhö joka valittelee pikkuasioista.

    Tietenkin ne jotka puhuvat rasismista ovat ylitunteelisia ja pakkomielteisiä. Ehkä jopa vaino harhasia. Sehän on loogista jos oletamme että rasismia ei ole olemassa.

    PS: En jääny ottamaan selville mitä kaikkee muuta he ajattelevat minusta kun tiedän jo melkein valmiiksi mitä he ajattelevat minunlaisista.

  3. Klay_Immigrant

    D4R are you talking about Somalia and the people who originate from there as that’s a pretty accurate description of the current state of the country and it’s inhibitants.

  4. Sasu

    Hommafoorumi ja sripti ovat vain ääri tapauksia. Holm itsekin korosti tektissään että enemmistö vain katsoi sivusta. Sivustakatsojii enemistö suomalaisista on. Värilliset voivat tulkita sen helpoti että katsojat ovat myös rasisteja koska jo he eivät olisi rasisteja niin he olisiva puuttuneet.

    Muistakaa sana alitajunnalliset stereotyypit. Stereotyypit joihin et tietoisesti mutta saata ilmaista niitä silloin kun ajatus ei kulje kunnolla. Sinulla on vaikkapa kova paine tai et ole tietoinen siitä. Kun värilliset kohtaavat “piilo rasismia”, se johtuu alitajunnallisista stereotyypeistä.


    Tuossa luennossa asia selitetään tarkemmin

  5. BlandaUpp

    Klay_Immigrant

    That’s totally uncalled for. I don’t get how a mixed race person born with a Muslim name like yourself can be so filled with hate of anyone who is Somali.

    • Migrant Tales

      BlandaUpp, Klay is still trying to figure out who he is. By denying who he is he is operating on half steam. If, however, he did he’d find strengths about himself that he never thought he had. One former student put it well: First you have to accept yourself.

  6. D4R

    Klay-immigrants: D4R are you talking about Somalia and the people who originate from there as that’s a pretty accurate description of the current state of the country and it’s inhibitants.

    What a racist scum you’re. You think you’re better than me just becuase you happened to be born in Finland? The people im referring to my early comments is you and the sickos who gather in Hommaforum.

  7. D4R

    Blandupp: Klay_Immigrant

    That’s totally uncalled for. I don’t get how a mixed race person born with a Muslim name like yourself can be so filled with hate of anyone who is Somali.

    I don’t believe klay is an immigrants, to me he or she sounds a typical Finnish racist, who hates anyone who has darker skin than he or she does.

  8. Klay_Immigrant

    BlandaUpp that’s the difference between you and me. I view things from an objective standpoint not allowing my background to influence my mindset and create bias. I’m a scientist so I look for impartial results and if something has gone wrong or unexpected I alter my method, not continue down the same path failing again and again. But for you as I’m mixed race and an immigrant (son of immigrants too) I have to automatically be pro-multiculturalism and a left wing liberal like a robot with no independent thought.

    Enrique I have already figured myself a long time ago and obviously have accepted it without a problem. That doesn’t mean I have to embrace everything especially if I don’t follow it or agree with it. I’m my own man and make my own decisions but obviously there are some things (from birth) I couldn’t control, but that doesnt mean that as a consequence I have to let it hold me back.

    When certain groups start pulling their weight and give to society as much as they take, then I’ll stop criticising them, but until then I will continue even to my own countrymen and women if they started behaving that way. As I said no double standards, only the same consistency for EVERYONE.

  9. Allan

    Yes, well Sasu, this “subconscious” racism. Thats good. Now where is the subconscious? In the persons own head, nowhere else. So if someone imagines “racism” thats really their problem, not other peoples, not mine, even I look or dont look at them on the bus, or stand or sit and mumble or am silent.

    If “racism” is someone sitting in a bus and mumbling into a phone while looking at you, then I would recommend kind of a “reality check”. Everything white people do is not “racism”. Generally, people just watch and wonder what the commotion is for – oh a drunk – and continue mumbling on their phone.

    Feeding peoples imagination like this blog does though is dangerous. Think someone all of a sudden being assured the tanks an military there in Espoo are to take them away. What would that be called, who gave them these ideas?

  10. Klay_Immigrant

    BlandaUpp my first comment in your opinion was uncalled for but is still totally true. Or are you going to disagree and start claiming that Somalia is a wonderful place, safe, tolerant, with people adhering to law and order? A country is a reflection of it’s people and culture as that’s what makes a country. So to be honest it’s no suprise to myslef at the success rate of Somalians in Europe (even 2nd generation).

    Speaking of tolerance and human rights, countries where Muslims are the majority are ranked lowly but instead of targeting these places and it’s people you pick on Finland? Bizarre to say the least.

  11. BlandaUpp

    Klay_Immigrant

    I’m a Finn. I don’t pick on Finland, I challenge people like yourself who spread myths unsubstantiated by facts when those myths are damaging to MY country. I couldn’t give a fuck about your hatred of Muslims or Islam. That’s your personal issues about YOUR heritage. The fact that you continuously bring them up shows that you are not at peace with YOURSELF and your “roots”. Bizarre to say the least.

  12. Klay_Immigrant

    BlandaUpp, my fault, Somalia is in fact one of the most developed countries in the world. Sorry for spreading myths, forgive me.

  13. eyeopener

    Klay_immigrant a scientist?? Objective?? That’s the reason he lives beyond reality. His world is a continuous experiment that he observes with being a part of it.

    In psychiatry you would coin this as “schizophrenia”. He calls it science. Good excuse to deny what the real world of living people is made of.

    Where on earth have I read this excuse already sosososososo many times. Probably it was in the Nurnberg WarCrime Trials, wasn’t it!! You should read the explanation of Rudolf Hoess, the Auswitchz extermination camps. Looks like your teacher!!

  14. eyeopener

    No Allan, you are just a part of the 5th column. People who are betraying their country like many of you have done in the WW II. Be proud of yourself because you are a coward.

    Your subconscious dear Allan is yourself that just doesnot want to realize its destruction. But it’s like a rat. And you know where rats live. Right you are, in the sewers and gutters. We went through your origines before.

    Display of your slime is not axcatly necessary here. Does contribute to the discussion. It was very nice but now you have shown up again.

    Boring!!

  15. Hazzan

    BlandaUpp

    ”All your statistics show the exact OPPOSITE of the shit you are saying about Somalis doing more crime.” EXPLAIN!

    ”WOW! You must really hate Jewish people then. Why so bigoted?” EXPLAIN!

    ”What does a mere 17% (3,030 people) of foreigners who got work permits last year on the grounds of employment and self-employment tell us?” EXPLAIN!!

    ”We are far behind other countries in attracting skilled labor as our ever-growing army of pensioners swells this decade and the next.”” far behind 3% of the advanced Sweden in 2009. EXPLAIN!

    ”“Why would a skilled immigrant move with his or her family to Finland if there are easier and friendlier countries in Europe? Why would they move to a country where a right-wing populist anti-immigration party, the PS, gained 19.1% of the votes in April from 4.05% in 2007?”
    -so why are they coming anyway?EXPLAIN!!

    ”How many unemployed from all over the EU have flooded into Finland since we joined the EU and opened our borders? ” -how many (officially) EXPLAIN

    ”Actually the original article was foreigners (including people visiting Finland) and you sweapt me in the stream. So if you see critically on who is the potential offender then it is of course the Somalis. Sweeds, Russians and Estonians travel to Finland on a regular basis (and sometimes commit crimes on the journeys) but I doubt Somalis travel that often between Finland and Somalia. May be I am wrong, who knows. May be you know better blandis?” EXPLAIN

    ””Then we have newcomer REFUGEES who in any society take at least a generation to adapt to their new country.” I suppose you mean their entry to the labour market. Do you think Denmark and Norway agree with this? Do you think the US agrees?” EXPLAIN!!

  16. Hazzan

    ”“Look at countries like the US. Canada, Brazil, Australia, Argentina, Sweden, England and many others. Immigration brings economic prosperity because it is innovation and new ideas.”

    ”You mean centuries ago when world was much different and manual labor was highly needed?”

    Enrique, EXPLAIN.

    EXPLAIN aslo why Finns didn’t get your credit since they prospered Sweden accourding your standards?

  17. BlandaUpp

    Hazzan

    Why are you crossposting? Keep it in the relevant thread here where I already destroyed your statistics http://nemoo.wordpress.com/2012/03/25/finland-and-our-trayvon-martins/

    “If Somalis did 939 crimes out of a total of 31700 crimes perpetrated by foreigners in Helsinki then Somalis perpetrate a SHOCKING 2.9% of crime perpetrated by foreigners in Helsinki!

    I even have it laid out for your small mind to see http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=What+percentage+of+31700+is+939

    So if the total amount of crimes perpetrated by foreigners is 8% of the Helsinki total then Somalis perpetrated 0.36% of total crime in Helsinki. SHOCKING!!!

    Where’s the outrage about the other 99.7% of crimes not done but Somalis?

    Why have Somalis become the scapegoat in the PS anti-immigration witch hunt?

    My point still stands that over 90% of “immigrant” crimes were perpetrated by white foreigners (using the American definition of a white person) MAINLY from Russia and Estonia. Somalis are VASTLY UNDERREPRESENTED in the statistics you provided.”

  18. Hazzan

    BlandaUpp

    ””Are you aware that the Kenyans, Nigerians, Ethiopians and Ghanaian immigrants (note: not refugees but immigrants) in Finland are on average more educated…..”

    where did you get the educational data?” EXPLAIN

    ”My point still stands that over 90% of “immigrant” crimes were perpetrated by white foreigners (using the American definition of a white person) MAINLY from Russia and Estonia.”

    ”1. ”Rangaistujen ulkomaalaisten (31 700) joukossa oli 143:n eri valtion kansalaisia, suurimpana lukuna 8 200 Venäjän tai entisen Neuvostoliiton kansalaista. Seuraavat kansalaisuudet olivat Viro (5892), according you:

    8 200+5892=14092/31700= 90% but my calculator say 44%. Use the link you provided, it works if you use correct numbers.”

    IS YOUR CALCULATOR OFF SERVICE OR ARE YOU DELIBATERELY MAKING MISTAKE?

  19. D4R

    Klay: BlandaUpp that’s the difference between you and me. I view things from an objective standpoint not allowing my background to influence my mindset and create bias. I’m a scientist so I look for impartial results and if something has gone wrong or unexpected I alter my method, not continue down the same path failing again and again. But for you as I’m mixed race and an immigrant (son of immigrants too) I have to automatically be pro-multiculturalism and a left wing liberal like a robot with no independent thought.

    Klay stop bluffing people, you’re Finn and trying to dirt immigrnts names, stop lying to people, you’re a scientist of bullshyt.

  20. D4R

    Klay: BlandaUpp my first comment in your opinion was uncalled for but is still totally true. Or are you going to disagree and start claiming that Somalia is a wonderful place, safe, tolerant, with people adhering to law and order? A country is a reflection of it’s people and culture as that’s what makes a country. So to be honest it’s no suprise to myslef at the success rate of Somalians in Europe (even 2nd generation).

    Stop it, you’re ridiculous as one can get. I left Somalia when i was 8 yrs old, what’s happening in there right doesnt define who i am or the people who’re there doesnt share same thoughts with me. The part where you say a country is the reflection of it’s people? so im asking you, do you have the tendency of killing people? because Finland is ranked one the biggest countries where people kill very often? is that a reflection of you? So if i am the reflection of my country even though i didn’t grow up in there, does that make me a warlord? is that your logic? i thought Finns were smart? but you’re making me rethink about that.

  21. D4R

    Klay, can you get more racist than you’re already? the reason why you attack Somalis only in every comment of yours is, bceause they’re vicible minority due to their dark skin and cultural clothings. I don’t see you attacking Russians or Estonians, even thou they hold the highest crime rates in your country, wait why arent you mentioning them? is’t because they’re white? talk about double standards. I don’t have nothing against Russians or estonians but i had to let it be known.

  22. D4R

    Hazzan: Actually the original article was foreigners (including people visiting Finland) and you sweapt me in the stream. So if you see critically on who is the potential offender then it is of course the Somalis. Sweeds, Russians and Estonians travel to Finland on a regular basis (and sometimes commit crimes on the journeys) but I doubt Somalis travel that often between Finland and Somalia. May be I am wrong, who knows. May be you know better blandis?” EXPLAIN

    So to you who is worst a Somali criminal or a Russian and Esotinian criminal in Finland?

  23. eyeopener

    D4R.

    These guys have nothing else in their minds as the manipulated data they calculate themselves. Then they put them forward as police statistics. I check today on these official staistics and asked an explanation from the Statistics Finland.

    Their story is very much different from what these guys pretend.

    Maybe they have some “inside police information”?? If so than an official complaint must be made to the police.

    Tomorrow I will contact the Police Information sites to ask for an official explanation of statistics as were also published by HS. Also HS will be ask to hightlight their sources.

    I am quite sure that this roughing with statistics will very soon ends.

    Cheer up. The GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT LOW OUTPUT is soon over!!

  24. D4R

    eyeopener: D4R.

    These guys have nothing else in their minds as the manipulated data they calculate themselves. Then they put them forward as police statistics. I check today on these official staistics and asked an explanation from the Statistics Finland.

    Their story is very much different from what these guys pretend.

    Maybe they have some “inside police information”?? If so than an official complaint must be made to the police.

    Tomorrow I will contact the Police Information sites to ask for an official explanation of statistics as were also published by HS. Also HS will be ask to hightlight their sources.

    I am quite sure that this roughing with statistics will very soon ends.

    Cheer up. The GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT LOW OUTPUT is soon over!!

    I seen that, it’s strange though where do they get their statistics, i mean to me they sound like they’re the police themselves, i don’t think normal everyday pekka can hurry up on twisted statistics unless they are doing some cooperation with the authorities, anyways this whole thing, i mean these guys sound suspicious to me.

  25. eyeopener

    Hi guys

    Did you noticed??. Somebody has learned a new word!! EXPLAIN. Where would this guy have learned such an exquisite word?? Probably the result of “copy-and-paste” Seems that this person really has no knowledge.

    Don’t want him in my class, would you??

    • Migrant Tales

      Hazzan, do you think you are making progress by such comments? I think it is a pretty poor way of making your point. Allan, who has disagreed with us on almost everything, can set you straight with the statistical stuff you are pushing.

      Moreover, comments like “is your rifle loaded” sounds more like a Nazi website than Migrant Tales. It discourages people from debating anything with you because you are violent.

      Just like you cannot make genralizations of people due to statistics, you cannot state characteristics. That was what anthropologists did well over a hundred years when they visited so-called primitive societies. They would make funny conclusions like “if provoked they’d get angry.” I’m exaggerating now but you get the message. Don’t fall into the nineteenth century trap and make the same mistake.

  26. BlandaUpp

    Hazzan

    Sigh… mathematics for bigots 101. I’ve clearly rustled your Jimmies.

    “IS YOUR CALCULATOR OFF SERVICE OR ARE YOU DELIBATERELY MAKING MISTAKE?”

    Somalis perpetrate a SHOCKINGLY LOW 2.9% of crime perpetrated by foreigners in Helsinki. Which calculates to 0.36% of total crime in Helsinki. Are you still on board?

    We both agree with this statistic right? Okay.

    Who did the other 97.1% of crime by foreigners if it wasn’t Somalis? You seem to be stuck on the idea that only Russians and Estonians are “white”. If you look at my clarification in the previous thread, I stated and I quote:

    “My point still stands that over 90% of “immigrant” crimes were perpetrated by white foreigners (using the American definition of a white person) MAINLY from Russia and Estonia. Somalis are VASTLY UNDERREPRESENTED in the statistics you provided.”

    Take it or leave it.

  27. Hazzan

    read and learn

    ”My point still stands that over 90% of “immigrant” crimes were perpetrated by white foreigners (using the American definition of a white person) MAINLY from Russia and Estonia.”

    ”1. ”Rangaistujen ulkomaalaisten (31 700) joukossa oli 143:n eri valtion kansalaisia, suurimpana lukuna 8 200 Venäjän tai entisen Neuvostoliiton kansalaista. Seuraavat kansalaisuudet olivat Viro (5892), according you:

    8 200+5892=14092/31700= 90% but my calculator say 44%. Use the link you provided, it works if you use correct numbers.”

    IS YOUR CALCULATOR OFF SERVICE OR ARE YOU DELIBATERELY MAKING MISTAKE?

  28. Hazzan

    Just like you cannot make genralizations of people due to statistics
    -that is why I am asking questions on BlandaUpss’ questions.

    Remember, it is not my rifle nor grenades that are loaded. Give your degrading comments to eyeopenor.

    Should I say that BlandaUpp is failing to do 3rd or 4th grade maths? More appropriate?

    • Migrant Tales

      Hazzan, let’s cool down ok? This goes for everyone, including me.

  29. eyeopener

    Hi MT

    This person acts on a far lower level of intelligence. Maths were never a subject of excellence neither their interpretations.
    Small example: Finland: 8.7% unemployment. Has this person looked at the unemployment rate of Lapland?? To demonstrate his simplicity (IQ<75)

    This person is provoking all the time with guns and grenades, He who loves the war doesnot know what it really looks like. There is a well-known saying that I paraphrase: The best soldiers are always at the bar!!

    I am surprised thought that he can handle a calculator. Pushing buttons doesnot mean understanding does it MT?? 🙂

    For this person: shallowness is a joy of his life.

  30. Hazzan

    ”Tomorrow I will contact the Police Information sites to ask for an official explanation of statistics as were also published by HS. Also HS will be ask to hightlight their sources. ”

    can’t wait!!!

    • Migrant Tales

      –acc, Mikä Hommaforumista tekee maltillisia? persutele odotan vastaustasi.

      Hyvä kysymys, D4R.

  31. D4R

    Guys, i urge you to stop engaging discussion with Hazzan, he is here to confuse or distract the real discussion we migrants trying to discuss in here, the important issues, Hazzan is doing a quite good job of disctracting us, it seems that we’re putting all energy and effort on answering his stupid non making sense comments, so let’s not feed to dog anymore and contiue dealing with the real issues.

  32. Hazzan

    Sasu

    Kyllä toi viimeisin oli teoria nimeltä BlandaUpp joka sekoili.

    ”Toinen miksi sinä edes olet täälä. Sinä et tuo mitään uutta vaan kiellät kaiken, mikä on mustille joka päiväistä todellisuusta.” PASKAPUHETTA. Ainoa vaihtoehto olisi se että, maalaisi naaman mustaksi ja menisi kaupungille katsomaan. Muuten ei voi tietää.

    Mä totesin että tuskin se on työpaikkarasismia ihonvärin perusteella kun kenyalaiset, ghanalaiset ja ethiopialaiset työllistyvät suomalaisia PAREMMIN. Se meni kuitenkin blandikselta ohi vaikka miten tivasin syytä. Kaikki kunnia näille maahanmuuttajille. Näkeekö työnantaja naamasta jos kyseessä ovat naapurit afrikasta, onko kyseessä ethiopialainen vai somali?

    Voisi katsoa Norjaa tai Tanskaa miten he ovat onnistuneet työllistämään ja kotouttamaan maahanmuuttajia, tarjoamaan näille mahdollisuuden tehdä työtä. Ja mahdollisuuden koulutukseen. Ja muuten hyvään elämään. En tiedä miten Blandis määrittelee sen että, joidenkin maahanmuuttajaryhmien KOTOUTTAMINEN kestää vähintään yksi sukupolvi. Siis meillä muttei Norjassa eikä Tanskassa.

    Se että useimmat euroopan maat ovat antaneet vapaat kädet maahanmuuttajille, ei ole yleisesti toiminut ja saanut Eu-maat tiukentamaan maahanmuuttopolitiikkaa. Kovia linjoja on tulossa suomeenkin, enemmin tai myöhemmin. Urpilaisen julisti viime viikonlopun jälkeen veropolitiikan joka VETÄÄ valtiontukea kunnilta. Tämä johtaa kuntien köyhtymiseen ja tuo lisää velkaa jo nyt pahasti (yli)velkaantuneille kunnille. Todennäköisesti kunnat eivät halua eivätkä pysty enää tulevaisuudessa ottamaan maahanmuuttajia suuressa määrin rasittamaan kuntien taloutta.

  33. D4R

    Hazzan: Mä totesin että tuskin se on työpaikkarasismia ihonvärin perusteella kun kenyalaiset, ghanalaiset ja ethiopialaiset työllistyvät suomalaisia PAREMMIN. Se meni kuitenkin blandikselta ohi vaikka miten tivasin syytä. Kaikki kunnia näille maahanmuuttajille. Näkeekö työnantaja naamasta jos kyseessä ovat naapurit afrikasta, onko kyseessä ethiopialainen vai somali?

    Sinulta taisi mennä ohi se kohta kun sinulle sanottin että, vaikka kenyalaiset ja ethiopialaiset ovat korkeasti koulutettuja ,he silti työllistyvät huonosta koska factorina saattaa olla että ihonväri on tekijä.

  34. D4R

    Hazzan: Se että useimmat euroopan maat ovat antaneet vapaat kädet maahanmuuttajille, ei ole yleisesti toiminut ja saanut Eu-maat tiukentamaan maahanmuuttopolitiikkaa. Kovia linjoja on tulossa suomeenkin, enemmin tai myöhemmin. Urpilaisen julisti viime viikonlopun jälkeen veropolitiikan joka VETÄÄ valtiontukea kunnilta. Tämä johtaa kuntien köyhtymiseen ja tuo lisää velkaa jo nyt pahasti (yli)velkaantuneille kunnille. Todennäköisesti kunnat eivät halua eivätkä pysty enää tulevaisuudessa ottamaan maahanmuuttajia suuressa määrin rasittamaan kuntien taloutta.

    Suomessa on älyttömän vähän maahanmuuttajia, täällä itketään jo miten maahanmuuttajat ovat rasite Suomelle, älä huoli Hazzan, sinun kaltaiset rasistit Suomalaiset pitävät huolen että Suomea karsastetaan tulevaisuudessa. Ei kukaan ulkomaalainen jaksa loputtoomiin sinun elämän frustraatio johon sä kohdistat heihin jotta saisit sisällön tylsälle elämällesi.

  35. Hazzan

    D4R

    ”Sinulta taisi mennä ohi se kohta kun sinulle sanottin että, vaikka kenyalaiset ja ethiopialaiset ovat korkeasti koulutettuja ,he silti työllistyvät huonosta koska factorina saattaa olla että ihonväri on tekijä.” PASKAPUHETTA ELI VALETTA

    ”where did you get the educational data?” EXPLAIN’

  36. Hazzan

    D4R

    ”Somalis perpetrate a SHOCKINGLY LOW 2.9% of crime perpetrated by foreigners in Helsinki. Which calculates to 0.36% of total crime in Helsinki. Are you still on board?”

    How many have Somali citizenship in Helsinki since it is so shockingly low?

    ”My point still stands that over 90% of “immigrant” crimes were perpetrated by white foreigners (using the American definition of a white person) MAINLY from Russia and Estonia. Somalis are VASTLY UNDERREPRESENTED in the statistics you provided.””

    TOTAL NONSENSE. Take Timo’s advice and travel a little, Timo says it opens.

  37. Hazzan

    Sorry D4R, it was meant to BlandaUpp

    Somalis perpetrate a SHOCKINGLY LOW 2.9% of crime perpetrated by foreigners in Helsinki. Which calculates to 0.36% of total crime in Helsinki. Are you still on board?”

    How many have Somali citizenship in Helsinki since it is so shockingly low?

    ”My point still stands that over 90% of “immigrant” crimes were perpetrated by white foreigners (using the American definition of a white person) MAINLY from Russia and Estonia. Somalis are VASTLY UNDERREPRESENTED in the statistics you provided.””

    TOTAL NONSENSE. Take Timo’s advice and travel a little, Timo says it opens

  38. D4R

    Hazzan: D4R

    ”Somalis perpetrate a SHOCKINGLY LOW 2.9% of crime perpetrated by foreigners in Helsinki. Which calculates to 0.36% of total crime in Helsinki. Are you still on board?”

    How many have Somali citizenship in Helsinki since it is so shockingly low?

    ”My point still stands that over 90% of “immigrant” crimes were perpetrated by white foreigners (using the American definition of a white person) MAINLY from Russia and Estonia. Somalis are VASTLY UNDERREPRESENTED in the statistics you provided.””

    TOTAL NONSENSE. Take Timo’s advice and travel a little, Timo says it opens.

    PASKAPUHETTA ELI VALETTA 🙂 in english: Big Lie

  39. Hazzan

    D4R

    May be like

    http://www.google.fi/imgres?q=big+lie&um=1&hl=fi&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:fi:official&biw=2560&bih=1219&tbm=isch&tbnid=usQUh2VDQFKKUM:&imgrefurl=http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/the-big-lie/article9822.html&docid=zO4Ql5a6g0LIgM&imgurl=http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/big-lie-300×219.jpg&w=300&h=219&ei=iHNxT_jgB7DU4QSlzoCGDw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=605&sig=104491705598752322224&page=1&tbnh=128&tbnw=175&start=0&ndsp=130&ved=1t:429,r:13,s:0&tx=121&ty=62

    🙂

  40. Yossie

    Enrique

    “They are like social media peep shows where little anonymous men meet. Instead of watching a naked woman or man, they get off by reading, writing and commenting about a social ogre called racism.”

    Is this exactly the same that is happening in Migrant tales? Fair enough you have published your name but rest of us are anonymous.

    • Migrant Tales

      Yossie, you like that, eh? I think it portrays Hommaforum to the tee. That place is a peep show.

  41. D4R

    Hazzan: D4R

    May be like

    http://www.google.fi/imgres?q=big+lie&um=1&hl=fi&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:fi:official&biw=2560&bih=1219&tbm=isch&tbnid=usQUh2VDQFKKUM:&imgrefurl=http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/the-big-lie/article9822.html&docid=zO4Ql5a6g0LIgM&imgurl=http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/big-lie-300×219.jpg&w=300&h=219&ei=iHNxT_jgB7DU4QSlzoCGDw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=605&sig=104491705598752322224&page=1&tbnh=128&tbnw=175&start=0&ndsp=130&ved=1t:429,r:13,s:0&tx=121&ty=62

    Bullshyt, a big lie, false statistic 🙂

  42. D4R

    Yossie: “They are like social media peep shows where little anonymous men meet. Instead of watching a naked woman or man, they get off by reading, writing and commenting about a social ogre called racism.”

    Is this exactly the same that is happening in Migrant tales? Fair enough you have published your name but rest of us are anonymous.

    You mean the little men in Hommaforum? Yossie, kudos to you, that was great description for Hommaforum little mens. I agree with you they’re pathetic little men. 🙂

  43. Allan

    Hommaforum has several posters with the moniker “nimellinen jäsen”, so I would say you are again, as always, wrong. But that is “racism”, yes I know.

    Mä ihan tosissaan kehottaisin D4R:ää ja muitakin menemään rohkeasti sinne keskustelemaan. Siellä vaan pitää perseen kestää merivettä. Enrique ei pärjää, koska ei kestä olla väärässä. Siellä saa olla mitä mieltä tahtoo, jos osaa perustella. OK, siellä tulee joku rassenasse ja sanoo pahasti, mutta so what? Voisi ne omatkin ennakkoluulot hieman karista.

  44. D4R

    Thanx but no Thanx, i think i remember my doctor telling me that i may be allergic to racist individuals and racism overall, so ill pass.

  45. D4R

    Allan: Hommaforum has several posters with the moniker “nimellinen jäsen”, so I would say you are again, as always, wrong. But that is “racism”, yes I know.

    Mä ihan tosissaan kehottaisin D4R:ää ja muitakin menemään rohkeasti sinne keskustelemaan. Siellä vaan pitää perseen kestää merivettä. Enrique ei pärjää, koska ei kestä olla väärässä. Siellä saa olla mitä mieltä tahtoo, jos osaa perustella. OK, siellä tulee joku rassenasse ja sanoo pahasti, mutta so what? Voisi ne omatkin ennakkoluulot hieman karista.

    Thanx but no Thanx, i think i remember my doctor telling me that i may be allergic to racist individuals and racism overall, so ill pass.

  46. Allan

    Adding to that, theres 2 or 3 members of parliament posting – with their own name – on Hommaforum. Moreover, they’ve held online debates and Q/A sessions with politicians and the “opposition” like the minority ombudsman et al. So talking about “little men” I think the only “little man” in this context is a certain blogger with a fantastic imagination.

  47. Allan

    Joo, D4R, oletko allerginen itselles?. Mullakin on allergia tyhmiä rasisteja kuten sua kohtaan, mutta mä yritän siedätyshoitoa.

  48. D4R

    Allan: Adding to that, theres 2 or 3 members of parliament posting – with their own name – on Hommaforum. Moreover, they’ve held online debates and Q/A sessions with politicians and the “opposition” like the minority ombudsman et al. So talking about “little men” I think the only “little man” in this context is a certain blogger with a fantastic imagination.

    Like who? James, or Hakkarainen? give me a break.

  49. D4R

    Allan: Joo, D4R, oletko allerginen itselles?. Mullakin on allergia tyhmiä rasisteja kuten sua kohtaan, mutta mä yritän siedätyshoitoa.

    Mä olen allerginen sulle ja sun Hommalaisille, ja mulle ei ole valitettavasti ole siedätyshoitoa siihen.

  50. Allan

    “Like who? James, or Hakkarainen? ”

    i don’t think Hakkarainen knows which end of the computer the saw blade is attached to, but James, Halla-aho and Saarela at least + a number of other politicians.

  51. D4R

    Allan: Ei haittaa, Suomi on vapaa maa ja Turkish Airlines kuljettaa, aurinko parantaa.

    Onneksi kaiki Suomalaiset eivät ole kuten sinä, joten mä jään tänne en mä lähde mihinkään, jos on ongelmia sen kanssa nosta kannetta.

  52. eyeopener

    D4R and MT.

    Simply because these three persons got kicked out or are being kicked out from Hommaforum they think they can hijack this blog.

    So simple are their arguments. Slime is simple rotten rat’s shit. Comes down from the brains of simple human rats. So simple as that.

    Our English rat from Billingsgate swims the fish sewers because he can’t eat anything else than simple garbage. His intelligence is rat-simple.

    The other two??? GIGOLOs. Simply feeding on the disinformation of the people. The simple “trash side” of human rats. So simpleas that. RATS. No more no less.

    Simple isn’t it??

    GIGOLO stand for: GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT LOW OUTPUT.. It’s as simple as that!!

  53. Allan

    BTW, the Hommaforum crowd has granted over 32 000 USD of micro-loans to developing countries through KIVA. Pretty good from “small men”, eh?

  54. D4R

    Allan:BTW, the Hommaforum crowd has granted over 32 000 USD of micro-loans to developing countries through KIVA. Pretty good from “small men”, eh?

    Another raich racist spoiled squad wasting taxpayers money pshhh, big deal, still small in humanity standards.

  55. Mark

    BTW, the Hommaforum crowd has granted over 32 000 USD of micro-loans to developing countries through KIVA. Pretty good from “small men”, eh?

    Evidence please!?

    Still, I am very much in favour of anyone making donations to the KIVA project. I have personally supported several development projects through the Kickstarter program.

    So, how much have you personally contributed to this Kiva, Allan, seeing as you are trying to take some credit for it?

  56. Mark

    Allan

    Thanks. I did. Very interesting and I’m impressed that some people there are actually supporting the idea of third world development with actual cash loans. Respect!

    So, what’s your Kiva username, Allan? Are you part of this Homma Kiva group?

  57. eyeopener

    Nr.1192119.

    Developmental aid in micro loans?? Can this blog have an insight in the “companies that request these loans”??

    Simply a matter of transparency where the money is invested in. Something to hide??

    Simple to know what “development” is supported.

    So simple!!

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