Greece and its bad case of ethnic profiling and scapegoating

by , under Enrique

The Greek Police announced that 16,836 foreign nationals were brought for questioning  during the first month that Xenios Zeus was instigated, according to the European Council on Refugees and Exiles (ECRE). A staggering 80% of those brought in for questioning were legal residents. Only 2,144 held by the police didn’t have their residence permits in order. 

Xenios Zeus, which was the ancient Greek god of hospitality, is a good example of how ineffective immigration policies and economic problems can force xenophobia to poison a society.

Sensible people understand that scapegoating immigrants for the country’s economic problems is a red herring. Greek politicians and civil servants, with the blessings of the public, are more interested in blaming defenseless immigrants and refugees  for Greece’s problems than themselves.

Whenever a person or a group scapegoats immigrants and minorities, it is a clear sign of cowardice and opportunism.

The Greek public should critically look at the country’s politicians, civil servants and financial sector and launch a “Xenios Zeus” to uproot corruption that festers in that country.

ECRE writes in a statement: ”Greek authorities claim that as a result of Xenios Zeus, the influx of illegal immigration in the area of Evros has been reduced by 84%. However, according to the newspaper ‘To Vima’, the “Xenios Zeus” operation has resulted in a dramatic increase in the smuggling tariffs for entering Greece from Turkey and leaving Greece for Italy. A few months ago, smugglers would request 2,500 to 3,000 Euro for a safe passage, while would-be migrants are now asked to pay up to 5,000 Euros.”

Groups like ECRE, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and the Greek Council of Refugees have criticized the massive police roundup of immigrants.

 

 

 

 

  1. akaaro

    tp1.Sure PS wants alot of things but what are things they want?. They only want to harm immigrants and even to devastate our rights more than ever in Finland.

    Finland can’t be better and save place for all its people if its politicians behaving like this way and undermining immigrant rights. I extremely surprise when i see Finnish MPs talking publicly in this manner and coming that morning to parliament meeting and others clapping for him/her because what s/he says about the immigrants are on the headline of the news that day. This is kind of tolerance and disrespectful way of what is happening to foreigners. So i dont think you need more examples if you are not behaving just as blind but i am giving you two or three examples as a take away. However, you dont perceive this takes immigrants’ rights because you alread knew and you are asking me again.

    1. MP Teuvo Hakkarainen (PS) suggested that gays, lesbians and Somalis be made to live together in Åland.

    tp1. Please tell me, Why Teuvo choosing for me where i want to live in Finland, why i don’t have a freedom to choose where i like to live as he does?

    2.Tommi Rautio (PS) a medal should be given to the man who shot at immigrant men in a pizzeria in Oulu.

    tp1. What is more harmful than inciting to kill innocent person or to joke somebody who was killed?

    3.Helena Eronen. proposed that Swedish-speakingFinns , other immigrants such as Russians, Somalis should wear arm band.
    Why we are wearing armband while you don’t?

  2. tp1

    1. MP Teuvo Hakkarainen (PS) suggested that gays, lesbians and Somalis be made to live together in Åland.
    tp1. Please tell me, Why Teuvo choosing for me where i want to live in Finland, why i don’t have a freedom to choose where i like to live as he does?

    That is simply not true. The comment was sarcastic and never a serious suggestion. It’s only people like you who like to twist any humorous stuff to reality whenever it supports your own beliefs.

    2.Tommi Rautio (PS) a medal should be given to the man who shot at immigrant men in a pizzeria in Oulu.
    tp1. What is more harmful than inciting to kill innocent person or to joke somebody who was killed?

    That was his personal opinion and in no way it reflects as having anything to do with PS. You are now generalizing. That is as bad comment as saying that all men are rapists if one man rapes a woman.

    And you can see how PS acted on that person, so there you can see what is PS’s stand on this. You fail.

    3.Helena Eronen. proposed that Swedish-speakingFinns , other immigrants such as Russians, Somalis should wear arm band.
    Why we are wearing armband while you don’t?

    And that is your second untruthful claim. Eronen NEVER suggested arm bands.

    • Mark

      tp1

      That is simply not true. The comment was sarcastic and never a serious suggestion. It’s only people like you who like to twist any humorous stuff to reality whenever it supports your own beliefs.

      MPs cannot and must not make suggestions like this, unless they want to be thrown out of politics. It’s called political standards. It’s not a pub night where anything goes and the next day we all just blame the booze. Calling it sarcasm certainly does not let him off the hook!

      That was his personal opinion and in no way it reflects as having anything to do with PS.

      Rubbish. Talk of cultural wars, counterjihad and defending Finland from the Islamic invasion are daily fare for the PS mob and their more Hompanzee-like supporters.

      And that is your second untruthful claim. Eronen NEVER suggested arm bands.

      You can be pretty sure that when tp1 says something ‘never’ happened, it did happen. And it did happen. The title of her story was ‘Ratkaisu poliisin ulkomaalaisratsioihin’, meaning ‘solution to police investigations of foreigners’ Here is the translation that Migrant Tales originally did:

      If every foreigner were required to use an armband [could also be translated as ‘sleeve emblem’] of his/her national background, the police could immediately spot whether that ‘aha, that is a Muslim from Somalia’ or ‘aha. that is a beggar from Romania.’ Muslims could [use sleeve badges] with a half moon…Russians [with] a hammer and sickle, Kampucheans could have field mines, a burger [could be used to distinguish] US Americans…”

      Now the fact that her suggestion turned out to be yet another act of ‘sarcasm’, for which PS are now famous, does not mean ‘she never suggested it’. She did suggest it, as a kind of joke (for her PS friends no doubt as I don’t recall too many foreigners splitting their sides), though it was very elaborated and certainly did a good job of playing up to the Nazi role, even if her intention was somehow to undermine the Nazi comparisons made with PS.

      I guess it is a good job for PS that there were at least a few wiser heads in the party when it comes ‘letting the dogs off the leash’.

  3. tp1

    MPs cannot and must not make suggestions like this, unless they want to be thrown out of politics. It’s called political standards. It’s not a pub night where anything goes and the next day we all just blame the booze. Calling it sarcasm certainly does not let him off the hook!

    Wrong again! MP’s are people like rest of us and they can say whatever they want. It’s up to people who vote for them to decide if they are thrown away, nobody else has nothing to say about that.

    As long as they get votes, they will be part of politics and can continue to say what they want and not be cencored like some people would definitely like to do.

    I give all my respect to MP’s who have guts to say what they want instead of being politically correct puppet who does absolutely nothing on behalf of their voters.

    • Mark

      tp1

      Wrong again! MP’s are people like rest of us and they can say whatever they want. It’s up to people who vote for them to decide if they are thrown away, nobody else has nothing to say about that.

      He can be thrown out the party. If he chooses to then stand as an independent, fine. You clearly are happy to normalise this crass behaviour and make him ‘one of us’. I on the contrary would expect that politicians are on the other hand talented and capable individuals who are capable of protecting and advancing the public good. Suggesting we send gays, lesbians and Somalis to live with Swedish speakers in Åland might well pander to his base support of racist and homophobic muppets, but it does nothing to advance the public good.

      and not be cencored like some people would definitely like to do.

      Censored? You take the biscuit, sometimes. So, condemning his obvious racism and homophobia is censoring him? It’s like talking to a child who thinks they are a grown up.

      I give all my respect to MP’s who have guts to say what they want instead of being politically correct puppet who does absolutely nothing on behalf of their voters.

      Yep, you give ALL your respect to homophobic and racist twats who think politics is just a joke.

    • D4R

      tp:

      Wrong again! MP’s are people like rest of us and they can say whatever they want. It’s up to people who vote for them to decide if they are thrown away, nobody else has nothing to say about that.

      As long as they get votes, they will be part of politics and can continue to say what they want and not be cencored like some people would definitely like to do.

      I give all my respect to MP’s who have guts to say what they want instead of being politically correct puppet who does absolutely nothing on behalf of their voters.

      So, your saying you’re ready to accept PS MP’s even though he may be wanting to kill innocent colored immigrants or, he is a dangerous nazi minded who incites hateret against colored immigrants and enjoys in the parliament? you’re a dangerous person tp, unfortunately alot of Finns are adobting same kind of dangerous vies as yours, becus they’ve been brainwashed in to thinking that, we are invading and taking over Finland and turning it in to a muslim state, wich is ubsurd.

    • Mark

      I notice you had nothing to say about being caught YET AGAIN in presenting false representations of the facts. Imagine trying to say that Eronen never suggested arm bands. I guess now that her text is unavailable, you can start practicing your revisionism. Were you in love? Nice for the jackboot brigade to have their pin-ups

  4. tp1

    I on the contrary would expect that politicians are on the other hand talented and capable individuals who are capable of protecting and advancing the public good.

    Let me laugh 😀 Just look at our prime minister and you have an example of a person who is doing exactly the opposite.

    It’s very frustrating to try to discuss with someone like you who twists the facts and then acts like those are reality. Like in this case you keep on claiming that Hakkarainen actually was suggesting sending gays etc. to Åland.

    There is absolutely no outcome in that kind of discussion, when persons discussing are living in different reality.

    • Mark

      tp1

      It’s very frustrating to try to discuss with someone like you who twists the facts and then acts like those are reality. Like in this case you keep on claiming that Hakkarainen actually was suggesting sending gays etc. to Åland.

      It must be frustrating trying to put out all these fires made by your fascist masters. Hakkarainen said it and it was only later that the party even claimed it was sarcasm. He said it in response to an Ilta Sanomat reporter asking him how he felt about his following among gay men. After saying that he preferred women followers and telling him that gays are okay as long as kids don’t get involved in being gay, and that it was Adam and Eve and not Adam and Eero, he actually later phoned the reporter back to tell him of his great plan!

      Hakkarainen halusi esittää idean: perustetaan “malliyhteiskunta” Ahvenanmaalle. – Laitetaan homot, lesbot ja somalit sinne keskenään asumaan ja katsellaan, millainen malliyhteiskunta siitä sitten rakentuu.Tällä ratkaisulla saataisiin selville se, miten se malliyhteiskunta syntyy ja muotoutuu. – Siellä voivat somalit huudella minareetistaan mitä huutelevat, ja me seurataan tätä mallia sitten perässä.

      You seem to think that politics is a game of comedy. But you are the joke, tp1!

      I have nowhere said that he meant it. In fact, I’ve said that it was sarcasm. So now you are lying about what I’ve said and I guess using that as an excuse to withdraw from the conversation about this. I’m not surprised, because really this is bad PR for PS whichever way you look at it.

  5. tp1

    I notice you had nothing to say about being caught YET AGAIN in presenting false representations of the facts. Imagine trying to say that Eronen never suggested arm bands. I guess now that her text is unavailable, you can start practicing your revisionism. Were you in love? Nice for the jackboot brigade to have their pin-ups

    This is exactly what I meant in my previous message about twisting the facts. Everybody know the fact that Eronen was not suggesting those arm bands, but instead she was writing sarcastically about the checkups done on people looking foreigners in order to find illegal immigrants. She gave a viewpoint which puts some contrasts and shows as that things could be even much worse. Nobody whose mental health is ok could understand her writing in a way that she was actually making a suggestion for minorities to wear arm bands.

    I know that even you know this, but still you want to twist that fact and use that to drive your own agenda. I start to wonder if you have any real honest facts to backup your agenda, or is everything based on a lie?

    • Mark

      tp1

      Everybody know the fact that Eronen was not suggesting those arm bands, but instead she was writing sarcastically about the checkups done on people looking foreigners in order to find illegal immigrants.

      More fires, eh. Did Eronen write what I quoted or not? Because in that quote she is specifically suggesting that foreigners wear arm bands. Now the fact that she meant it jokingly is by and by, the point is, she made the suggestion, and that was absolutely totally bloody crass from a parliamentary aide. Should have been sacked immediately, if for nothing else than her total political naivety.

      She gave a viewpoint which puts some contrasts and shows as that things could be even much worse.

      Pardon? She used an analogy that was last put to use in Europe 60 years ago and resulted in the deaths of six million people. Bloody hell, tp1, when are you going to get some perspective here!?

      Nobody whose mental health is ok could understand her writing in a way that she was actually making a suggestion for minorities to wear arm bands.

      I have at no point here tried to suggest that she actually wanted people to wear armbands. However, the fact that she made the suggestion is an absolute fact, written in black and white and recorded for posterity. That she was writing sarcastically is also clear, but that does not make it okay, you muppet.

      So, keep trying to twist what I’m writing about it. Then perhaps you can practice your fake outrage and make stupid references to my mental health. YOU are the one directly avoiding the debate that YOU started.

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