By Enrique Tessieri
One of the most important matters for immigrants and their children is to find a place in society. This can be done through work, equal opportunity and most importantly by acceptance by the host society. In the same way, some immigrants that move to Finland have to adjust to a new type of society based on cultural diversity.
Reading many of the comments on the Internet by some Finns can be revealing. For me they show that those that write these posts don’t understand the minimal basics of how their own society works never mind what immigration is.
They resemble laymen trying to build a nuclear reactor on their own. All of the pieces that go together are placed based on hearsay, ignorance and prejudice. When the nuclear reactor is built, they close their eyes and leave the rest to chance: Kaboom!
How many of those that work with immigrants in Finland really understand the dynamics never mind have a proper background that orients them effectively to such work? I believe we’d be surprised.
Of all the claims made by laymen on immigration, one of the most incredible is that they believe that all the rights (civil liberties, job opportunities to name a few) are only theirs. This other mass of legal immigrants living in Finland should not and cannot aspire to these rights because the latter group mistakenly believes that all these rights are only theirs.
If that were the case, could they please show us where they have legally more rights than immigrants when it comes to civil liberties and opportunities? If you are going to create a society that systematically excludes certain groups you will end up with the same problems as in other countries.
If one wants to speed up the integration process of immigrants and refugees in Finland, a massive integration program would have to be instigated for a part of the population. Too many are still in the dark about living in a modern, globalized and culturally diverse society.
The first matter they should study is our Constitution and Non-Discrimination Act.
Integration is a two-way street and should involve as well the integration of Finns into the mainstream of our society.
“Why integration does not work effectively in Europe?”
Hirsi Ali has the why…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOzW-aHo-6E&feature=channel
Islam is peace? Is Christianity peace? What about Zionism? The term incompatible is a fave of the discourse. Something is incompatible and therefore they should leave or change. One of the things she does not answer is how her recipe will undermine our society. And how big of a problem is it? You are only looking at one narrow side of a more complex issue.
As usual you didn’t watch the video….
“Too many of them are still in the dark about living in a diverse society.”
I agree with that, having less then 4% of immigration and most of it composed by Russians and Westerners, Finns are not really used to live in a diverse society.
However the beauty is – they don’t need to. That’s why next election if so important. To all Finns reading this, If you don’t want a Malmo or Luton in Finland, please vote for True Finns.
“The term incompatible is a fave of the discourse. Something is incompatible and therefore they should leave or change.”
How about racism? Is it incompatible? Should it leave or change?
Vote for them, but for God’s sake don’t elect them, eh Toby?
Silly boy
LOL @Tony da Toby
-“Integration is a two-way street and should involve as well the integration of Finns into the mainstream of our society.”
But first immigrants must do their part.
They have to show they want to be part of community, and learn to act in a way that fits the community.
Then they are accepted and they can introduce their new, unconflicting habits to community and possibly cause change.
But first and foremost, to be included… Immigrant must adjust to their surroundings. Just walking in and saying “INCLUDE ME NOW!” is stupidity.
Good grief!
What’s come over you, Tiwaz?
Are you feeling OK?
Tony, here is a song for you: I am dreaming of a WHITE Christmas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA45TnJQxhU&feature=related
Immigration problems in Buenos Aires, 4 dead:
http://www.elpais.com.uy/10/12/11/pinter_534635.asp
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20101211/twl-park-riots-leave-four-dead-41f21e0.html
Hola Pedro, thank you for sharing these links with us. As you know, we debate a lot of racism issues in Europe. I am personally happy that we can also speak about this problem in Argentina.
I personally consider what is happening in these slums as disgraceful. Poverty is for Argentina a constant shameful reminder of how it has failed as a nation. The same arguments used in Europe to ostracize certain groups is also used in faraway countries like Argentina. I have heard in Buenos Aires how the Bolivians are stealing jobs from Argentineans. Sounds familiar?
In my opinion, one of the factors that caused Argentina to become a nation like Australia and Canada in the last century is due to the fall of immigration. Argentinean society changed radically due to European immigration. After 1930, however, immigration fell drastically due to the Great Depression and World War II. This was a hard blow for Argentina.
“Why integration does not work effectively?”
http://www.thelocal.se/30782/20101212/
LOL@TabloidTony
Sweden was very naïve if it expected to send its armed forces to wage war abroad with no domestic consequences. Civilians die in Afghanistan every day, but we don’t hear a word about it from Tony the Toby, our resident spoilt rotten Brazilian rich kid.
This is the real world, Toby. You need a more sensitive analysis than you’ll ever get from tabloid outrage.