(Another) Finnish Border Guard scare-tactic story

by , under All categories, Enrique

Here is another scare-tactic story by the Finnish Border Guard to reinforce our fears of the “uncontrolled hordes” of immigrants that are attempting to enter Finland illegally. It is a bit like a recent story by YLE that aims to fuel refugee and immigrant hysteria among the population.

Let’s dissect this story with tweezers and see its flaws. In the first place, it speaks of “about 20,000 illegal immigrants” attempting to enter the European Union through Finland from Russia. Note, the article speaks of immigrants as opposed to refugees from Asia, Africa and Palestine. If they are real refugees, shouldn’t they have a right to apply for asylum?

Another matter that should be pointed out about the story is that the figures  are only rough estimates.

These types of stories serve the Finnish Border Guard very well. It reinforces the unsubstantiated notion that we are under constant attack by hordes of foreigners (immigrants and refugees) and therefore it is a good matter that the police are handling immigrant affairs in the country. If I wanted more funds from the state, these types of stories would serve me well.

Some Finnish politicians and the police have used these types of scare tactics in the past. During the cold war, there was no discussion about our foreign policy because it was an issue of national security. Hysteria was also fuelled by people such as the Keijo Korhonen, who around 1990 warned Finns in a populist fashion about unonctrolled masses of Russian refugees overtaking Finland.

If the Finnish Border Guard wants to talk about illegal immigration seriously, they should study the US-Mexican border or travel to Spain and Italy. An estimate of 20,000 is a drop in the bucket with what the latter countries have to deal with.

  1. hannu

    “An estimate of 20,000 is a drop in the bucket with what the latter countries have to deal with.”

    Well lets calculate, 20,000 to finland (5 339 870) is 0,0037454per capita.
    Relatively same amount to your example countries would be
    USA 308 651 528* 0,0037454 = 1 156 023.
    Spain 46 063 511*0,0037454 = 172 526.
    Italy 59 337 888*0,0037454 = 222 244.

    Do they have to deal amounts like that and would USA consider over 1 million as “drop in the bucket”? And remember again that we dont have menial agriculture etc jobs like those countries do…

  2. xyz

    “Good try, Hannu, but 20,000 IS 20,000 NOT 1.1 million.”
    And Finland IS Finland NOT USA.

    – What is Finland? It’s personal interpretation. For me or my Finnish friends Finland can be something else than for you. Just because you think it is right does not mean that it’s the opinion of everyone.

  3. hannu

    “- What is Finland? It’s personal interpretation. ”

    Take a world map, there is lines called “borders”, in northern europe you find one area where reads “Finland”. Thats Finland.

    If you arent Stalin or with similar powers you cant just “intepreter” borders.

  4. xyz

    Take a world map, there is lines called “borders”, in northern europe you find one area where reads “Finland”. Thats Finland.
    -I was not talking about the physical point of view 🙂

  5. Tiwaz

    -“I was not talking about the physical point of view”

    So what was your point? Oh yes, you have NONE!

    20 000 is very fucking much for nation of 5 million.

    It’s cool you like to compare it to say usa with 300 million or perhaps China or India with 1billion plus, but we are talking about Finland.

    Area clearly limited with population of 5 million.
    20 000 welfare leeches trying to get here is big issue.

    • Enrique

      –20 000 is very fucking much for nation of 5 million.

      Wow, Tiwaz, better go hide in a shelter and stock up on food and imagine all those things that are going to happen. Some call it hysteria others refer to it as xenophobia.

      The Winter and Continuation War ended in 1940 and 1944 – 71/66 years ago! Isn’t it high time you put your fears to rest? Moreover, if I were looking for more funds and I were the police or a border guard, I would stress how “we are being invaded.” It is like asking a locksmith if there is a lot of crime. Kekkonen was especially talented in forcing everyone to think the same way.

      You ask about what a culturally diverse society will do to Finland. One of its first impacts will be a diversity of opinions and points of views. Just like there are few immigrants in Finland, there are few views of how things are seen officially. It is a sort of poverty and forces some of us to look at matters in a myopic manner. But naturally you agree with everything the government, official Finland and history books say because you don’t know better. You were made with a xerox machine that gave you a culture but no free will or the ability to think independently, according to you.

    • Enrique

      –Can you actually get social welfare if you are illegal in a country?

      You need a Kela card.

  6. Tiwaz

    -“You ask about what a culturally diverse society will do to Finland. One of its first impacts will be a diversity of opinions and points of views.”

    Don’t forget the crime, destruction of social cohesion and general failure of society.

    Read “Bowling alone” for more scientifically studied results of multicultural society becoming miserable.

    -“Just like there are few immigrants in Finland, there are few views of how things are seen officially. It is a sort of poverty and forces some of us to look at matters in a myopic manner.”

    If it works, don’t fix it.
    If it doesn’t work, don’t ask those from failed societies for advice on how to fix it.

    -“But naturally you agree with everything the government, official Finland and history books say because you don’t know better.”

    I know better. Been out there, seen the misery multiculturalism brings and do not want it anywhere near me.

    As for government. I disagree with them more than anything.

    I disagree with their immigration politics, those grannies for one should already be out of Finland, I disagree with their unemployment policies.
    I disagree with whole lot of them on how nuclear power should not be built.

    -“You were made with a xerox machine that gave you a culture but no free will or the ability to think independently, according to you.”

    Actually, you are the one without ability to think independently. You are so stuck up on vision your parents force fed you about excellence of multiculturalism that you cannot break free from it’s chains.

    -“Can you actually get social welfare if you are illegal in a country?”

    Question is not being illegal. It is about getting in illegally and then starting to request refugee status.
    Or whining for permit to become drain for social security like famous 2 grannies just some weeks ago.

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